• The problem with alarm, is with this sensor on the plastic ramp, i found that sometimes with 5 DM it's not working good, coin stuck because ramp is not straight 100% and 5 DM are bigger than other so it's sometimes little dificult. With 10 pf, 1,2 DM no problem.
    I must find "new" ramp. I tried to glue the plastic but one small part is missing.


    Can you show a picture?

    I uploaded on Youtube a video of the start button wich don't want half shine, I changed the bulb and it's same (used the bulb from risk button, the bulb in risk button half shine, so the problem is not with bulb). Any chance to repair it ?


    Well, it's not a big error. Repair is possible, but might need to change a chip (IC) on the board. An expert would need to check the main board (Steuereinheit / "weiße CPU"). However, to be sure you could first check if something is wrong with the microswitch. Try exchanging with a another mount and switch e.g., from one of the risk buttons.

    My diagnostic with the small bar wich block the coin comparator wasn't correct. The bar and magnes work fine. The problem is that whem its more than 30 DM inside the machine for the game, it's impossible to add some coins, and they are all returned. If i move the bar, the coins are accepted but not credited. Is it normal working process that i can't throw more than 30 DM?


    Yes, it's normal that you cannot add more money when 30 DM is reached. However, the limit can be programmed with a special console.

    And bonus question, is it possible to install a switch for proper off and on the machine? Without plug it / unplus (or without use the button on a multi socket), for preserve the electronic?


    Sure, that's possible. The most easyist solution is with a single switch (like this) directly between plug and wall socket. Some people also solder a switch (like this) into the power cable.

  • Thank for your answer :)

    I upload some pics. Its miss 2 snall parts in down, i had one, I tried glue it, its work but i still miss one small part, so it's not correctly hang by the screw.

    I will swap risk and start button for check it, i hope it's just this :)

    Do you have more information (or website, or what search) about this possibility of programmation with console? Its with the service keyboard wich is very hard to find?

    So it's like a basic lamp or any electric machine, easy. I bough connected plug like i use at home already. Just better don't on/off it 20 time a day i guess..!

    Oh and one other ask. Any possibility to off the alarm sound without disconnect the speaker? For have the normal sound but not the alarm? (because its one light too and i used to play when kid is sleeping..)

  • Hi Remik95,
    for me it looks like a software issue with the half shinning lamps...
    What Version of software you have?
    You can read this on the Eproms of the CPU if you open the CPU door.
    Something ist written on the Eproms like "Disc I", "Disc II" etc. with a blue number "3" or "4" or something else.
    The last Version of the Disc was the V4 i think...
    Personal information: Michel in the neighborhood forum requested you in german that he postet an personal message to you. The price for the lock is 5 Euro, the shipping is round about 11 Euro to Poland...

    I think it is better if the lock, the ramp and the Eproms (if required) is sended to you in one parcel... but that is my personal opinion... ;}

    Greetings
    Frank

  • Hi Frank,

    I send you a picture of the eproms. One is with blue sticker, when i saw it, i was surprised that only one is blue.
    So, after what you wrote, i imagine that all eproms have version 4, but the last one with blue have version 5?

    I didnt get PM from Michel :( I saw he wrote on his topic just now. I don't have notification from this forum :(

    You have right about ramp, lock and eproms if needed, but.. must find somebody wich have everything :D

  • Hi Remik95,
    it is a version V4, so that is good.
    I mentioned it earlier that sometimes the 6th Eprom is in blue and with a 5 on it, but it seems to be alright.
    I have no idea why there is a 5 on it... but it has nothing to do with you "half shinnig" problem.
    There is a checksum in the eproms, so if something is wrong with them the machine would not start... so everything is fine! ;}

    I will look on my Disc if there is the same behaviour with the half shinnig...

    Another solution is that someone collects all the items from the other users and send it to you! ;}
    Greetings
    Frank

  • Hi Remik95,
    OK i have checked my Disc with V4.
    The is nothing "half shinnig" if i activate the "Risiko" and "Start" automatic.
    So its normal that in V4 the lights are on and not half shinning, there is nothing wrong with you machine.
    I could believe that in an earlier version there was an half shinning light but not in V4.
    Oh yes your question about the programming console:
    There is no programming console, the only thing is a white test keyboard for testing some functions of the machine.
    This was for the technician to check the machine parts as coils or displays or lamps and error codes... the program code itself is a secret from Gauselmann (ADP) because otherwise you could manipulate the machine to win money... you imagine that it is not very helpful for a gamble machine if the code is open source. ;}

    The white test keyboard looks like... see picture.
    The manual for it is here:
    https://www.geldspielfreunde.de/forum/index.ph…-servicetastur/
    Greetings
    Frank

  • Thanks for checking it !

    I guess this keyboard is impossible to find or for million euros !

    The black counter "sonderspiele" look like not working.. Even the light on it don't shine..
    Its should increase number of this counter when it's for example 3 time merkur sign ?

  • Hi Remik95,
    OK i try to explain the game:
    The machine gives you a win if 3 Symbols on the discs are equal in the hexagonal fields.
    Then you can risc your win an try to push the ladder to the top to increase the sum.
    The sum on the ladder can everytime be taken with the "Stop" button.
    If you push the ladder to high and not on time you lose the sum an the ladder stops on the zero...

    If you push the win ladder to the first red 2 on the right side or to the red 3 on the left side and then push the right "Stop" button for complete win transfer you get the complete special games (Sonderspiele).

    Then the Counter should increment to 2 or 3. Then the sun blinks and every round you have in the middle disc a striped field you get 3 DM.
    If you push to 6 or 5 special games (Sonderspiele) with the middle Stop button you can share the win, so you get on number 6 the half counter of wins (the counter increments to 3) and you can push further...
    If you get the symbols on the top of 100 and 90 then you get directly special games (Sonderspiele) or in the bottom in the middle of the glas the symbols you get 10 to 100 special games (Sonderspiele).
    Greetings
    Frank

  • Oh many thanks, i understand now !!
    Really great explication !

    So right stop button add to counter.
    What with the left stop button? "Teil-Gewinn Übernahme"?
    I saw this text was appear one or two time.

    It's not easy have 2 or 3 and other.. In my case its blue color, i guess it's depend of the color of the panel.

  • Hi Remik95,
    yes the colour depends on the glas in the machine...
    "Teil-Gewinn Übernahme" is the described "win share" so you get half of the sum and the other half of the sum will be used for pushing the ladder higher... so you risk the half of the win...
    Greeting
    Frank

  • Hi Remik95,
    nope the alarm and the sound are over the same speaker.
    So there is no chance to disable the alarm...
    The alarm was essential for gambling machines (they were full of money) that were manipulated from an customer... thats the reason the alarm can not be disabled...
    Is there no chance for you to organize a piece of plastic that you can form as the original holder?
    Cut the old piece straight of the ramp and make a new piece with a rasp and a drill.

    Then glue it to the ramp...
    Here a picture of the missing part.

    Greetings
    Frank

  • Hello !

    I tried to diagnose why the lamp on the black counter is not working (sorry my electronic course are.. far.. ahah)

    So, continuity between red lines are ok
    Between blue line i have 4,98 volts
    Between purple line i have -0,54v
    The light bulb is good and is not shinning

    I guess that this small black component isn't working..

    I found the schema, i think its this diod in purple?

    If i'm right, maybe you have an idea of what diod i should buy? I dont see what it's write on it :(
    I have this one in spare (it was for my car) https://www.tme.eu/en/details/1n5…/dc-components/ but i think not compatible..

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