Beiträge von Frank.N

Hi Remik95,
you can measure the diode with your multimeter...
Disconnect the connector of the pcb and than try to measure the diode like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj9WpoaX2Gk
But you are shure the cable from the CPU to the counter ist absolutely fine?
Otherwise measure the cable...
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
well done!

Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
nope the alarm and the sound are over the same speaker.
So there is no chance to disable the alarm...
The alarm was essential for gambling machines (they were full of money) that were manipulated from an customer... thats the reason the alarm can not be disabled...
Is there no chance for you to organize a piece of plastic that you can form as the original holder?
Cut the old piece straight of the ramp and make a new piece with a rasp and a drill.

Then glue it to the ramp...
Here a picture of the missing part.

Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
yes the colour depends on the glas in the machine...
"Teil-Gewinn Übernahme" is the described "win share" so you get half of the sum and the other half of the sum will be used for pushing the ladder higher... so you risk the half of the win...
Greeting
Frank

Hi Remik95,
OK i try to explain the game:
The machine gives you a win if 3 Symbols on the discs are equal in the hexagonal fields.
Then you can risc your win an try to push the ladder to the top to increase the sum.
The sum on the ladder can everytime be taken with the "Stop" button.
If you push the ladder to high and not on time you lose the sum an the ladder stops on the zero...

If you push the win ladder to the first red 2 on the right side or to the red 3 on the left side and then push the right "Stop" button for complete win transfer you get the complete special games (Sonderspiele).

Then the Counter should increment to 2 or 3. Then the sun blinks and every round you have in the middle disc a striped field you get 3 DM.
If you push to 6 or 5 special games (Sonderspiele) with the middle Stop button you can share the win, so you get on number 6 the half counter of wins (the counter increments to 3) and you can push further...
If you get the symbols on the top of 100 and 90 then you get directly special games (Sonderspiele) or in the bottom in the middle of the glas the symbols you get 10 to 100 special games (Sonderspiele).
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
OK i have checked my Disc with V4.
The is nothing "half shinnig" if i activate the "Risiko" and "Start" automatic.
So its normal that in V4 the lights are on and not half shinning, there is nothing wrong with you machine.
I could believe that in an earlier version there was an half shinning light but not in V4.
Oh yes your question about the programming console:
There is no programming console, the only thing is a white test keyboard for testing some functions of the machine.
This was for the technician to check the machine parts as coils or displays or lamps and error codes... the program code itself is a secret from Gauselmann (ADP) because otherwise you could manipulate the machine to win money... you imagine that it is not very helpful for a gamble machine if the code is open source.

The white test keyboard looks like... see picture.
The manual for it is here:
https://www.geldspielfreunde.de/forum/index.ph…-servicetastur/
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
it is a version V4, so that is good.
I mentioned it earlier that sometimes the 6th Eprom is in blue and with a 5 on it, but it seems to be alright.
I have no idea why there is a 5 on it... but it has nothing to do with you "half shinnig" problem.
There is a checksum in the eproms, so if something is wrong with them the machine would not start... so everything is fine!

I will look on my Disc if there is the same behaviour with the half shinnig...

Another solution is that someone collects all the items from the other users and send it to you!
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
for me it looks like a software issue with the half shinning lamps...
What Version of software you have?
You can read this on the Eproms of the CPU if you open the CPU door.
Something ist written on the Eproms like "Disc I", "Disc II" etc. with a blue number "3" or "4" or something else.
The last Version of the Disc was the V4 i think...
Personal information: Michel in the neighborhood forum requested you in german that he postet an personal message to you. The price for the lock is 5 Euro, the shipping is round about 11 Euro to Poland...

I think it is better if the lock, the ramp and the Eproms (if required) is sended to you in one parcel... but that is my personal opinion...

Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
its important that the copper latch at the top of the coin tower is working properly.
The plastic coin ramp must be absolutely straight and the copper latch must work freely.
In the copper latch i a small hole where the photo sensor must shine through the hole.
Every time a coin passes the photo sensor should very short be interrupted by the latch, but after that the latch should be back at the initial position where the sensor shine through the hole.
If this latch stucks you get an alarm, this was a security latch for coins in german its "Fadenfoul-Schalter" in english somithing like "Filament Foul Sensor".
So look if the latch is absolutely functioning...
The automatic Start Button you can only push on begin of the next round.
If this Button is "half shinning" the machine starts automatically the first Disc a second time if there is a lower symbol on it.
If the automatic risk (Risiko) button is "half shinning" the machine risk the winnings automatically up to the extra games (in german "Sonderspiele").

Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
its behind the PCB on the right side.
See photo!
But you must be careful with disassembly, its important how the isolation is assembled.
So take care on disassembly and make photos...
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
by the way:
This are old machines with mechanical parts (like the coin comparator) in it, so that sometimes a coin stuck is normal.
Even at the time the machines were productive, sometimes the coin stucks, that was not abnormal...
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
yes this black one!
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Frank

Hi Remik95,
the continued alarm tells you that the counter on the top left is not 100% functioning.
Try to clean the counter and its photo sensor...
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
as discomet says:
There is something wrong with the compensator.

After pushing the return button at the top the compensator must go fully back not half the way, so something is stuck...
If you push it back it works, so look on the sites of the compensator of there is something bend...
Greetings

Frank

Hi Remik95,
the coin blocker only works with coin comparator installed.
The coin comparator pushes the blocker arm 2 or 3 mm inside the coin tower so the magnetism on the coil can switch the coin blocker arm...
If the coin comparator is not installed try to push the coin arm with your screwdriver 2 or 3 mm into the coin tower and you will see that it will switch.
If the coil from the coin blocker is dead, every coin is not accepted....

Greetings
Frank

Hallo CasLino,
also wenn Du es so beschreibst das wenn 10Cent eingeworfen werden das dann der Alarm los geht sieht es eher nach einem Münzklemmer oder ähnlichem aus.
Das mit der Alarmanlage könnte sein, aber leider kann ich Dir da wenig weiterhelfen.
Denn es ist ein Gerät mit Spiel- und Speichermodul ([definition=8]SuS[/definition] Modul) und ich bin eher bei den Vorgängern mit weißer CPU zu Hause.
Evtl. hat noch jemand mit mehr Erfahrung bei [definition=8]SuS[/definition] Modul Geräten eine gute Idee...
Viele Grüße

Frank

Hallo CasLino,
ich weiß zwar gerade nicht um welches Gerät es geht, aber langsames blinken der grünen Münzpfeile bedeutet das die Röhren der betreffenden Münzen einen niedrigen Stand haben.
Wenn die Pfeile schnell blinken ist die Münzröhre leer und muß aufgefüllt werden nach dem Prozedere des Handbuchs(!).
Normales Füllen der Röhren hilft hier nicht, der Automat muß das sozusagen "mitbekommen" das aufgefüllt wurde.
Kann es evtl. sein das Dein Automat auch noch eine Alarmanlage eingebaut hat?
Das würde mir erklären warum da ein Alarm beim Aufschließen wäre... aber dazu müsste man wissen welches Gerät und ggfs. mal Fotos vom Innenleben haben...
Viele Grüße
Frank

Hi Remik95,
yes WD40 can be the reason that the coin comparator not correctly work...
And as i said try to put the main coin comparator on a table an look how the scales for 2DM, 1DM and 10 Pfennig work.
If the coin is accepted it will fall to the right side in one of the separated grooves, if not accepted to the left side (a not separated groove)...

The plastic ramp is combined with the 5DM coin comparator (that is the above scale)...
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
the coin comparator needs no oil or grease and never use it... try to clean it with 99% alcohol (isopropanol) than its fine.
I think with a good glue you can repair the coin ramp, otherwise ask here and in the neighborhood forum if someone has one in stock...
Greetings
Frank

Hi Remik95,
after diassembly of the coin comparator try to clean it.
To test it put it on a table an try the coins to see how it works...
This mechanical coin comparators work without electronic so you can test them without the machine.
Greetings
Frank